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This book was a necessary evil, but it was predictable. Guess what, Mesa keeps manipulating the Solarian league. The Maya sector is still going to be a big player in the future of the League. The League looks like it'll break up as Honor proposed to the Queen, etc. There's one small surprise, the rapidity with which things spin, but this is a book is a complete setup novel. You don't even get to enjoy what happens to the Solarian fleet at Manticore.

I don't agree that the series will be over in 2 books, I think it could be stretched out a lot. We have 4 players now, the Solarians who realized something was wrong, Mesa, the Manticoran Alliance, and the Maya sector. They could spend a lot of time on how things break down and the rise of Mesa before the bad guys get stomped. Just telling the story of all the players will take more than 2 books if he gives us any details...

Update - I did some research online and A) the series will clearly not be over in 2 books and B) we know now why this book was so slow.

Weber wrote 'this' book while Flint was working on the next spin off novel. Weber finished his book and was reviewing the novel by Flint. Based on the timeline and contents of Flint's novel they decided to split A Rising Thunder in half so the content in Flint's novel wouldn't be spoiled. So, the next book by Weber is really the 2nd half of A Rising Thunder, it's already FINISHED (Shadow of Freedom) and will be released after Flint's book. Hopefully this means we'll get 2 Honor books in the next year.


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A Rising Thunder Honor Harrington David Weber 9781451638066 Books Reviews

As a Caveat I love the Honorverse Books and the spin-offs, so I'm probably biased.

I feel like Rising Thunder must be building toward something, because those whole book was pretty much a lot of politicking and foreshadowing and planning.

I understand that this sort of thing was kind of inevitable in a story about an officer in a star-faring Military. Honor is repeatedly successful in a string of Naval engagements of Trafalgar-levels of import - she's going to be promoted. I get it.

But "Thunder" spends so much of its time on Earth, dealing with "the bad-guys" that Weber forgets to write about his main character. I think Weber was so concerned about writing a novel about his heroes going to war against Earth, that he needed to go out of his way to establish that Earth has been so thoroughly corrupted that our heroes are *really* responding to the Machiavellian maneuverings of a small cadre of super-corrupt bureaucrats and the well-meaning, honest Earthlings who are just following orders. I get it Mr. Weber, everyone gets it - lets get back to our heroes please.

I've spent all these books reading about Manticore and its Allies, and Honor and her colleagues in the RMN. I want to keep reading about them! I don't care about corrupt bureaucrats on Earth, I get plenty of that in my News, thank you very much. This series was touted to me as the best of Military Sci Fi, with an emphasis on Hard SF - and up until now this has generally held true. But in "Thunder" I think this series has moved beyond the realm of MIL SF and into general SF or Political SF.

I don't really know how to fix it, but something, which made Honor's earlier outings so special, is missing in Rising Thunder, I think.

tl;dr - A somewhat longwinded set-up for something grand in the next novel. If you've followed Honor this long you may as well keep going, but this is not Weber's finest hour.

Incidentally, if you haven't read them - the Shadows of Saganami series is beyond excellent.
this is an aggravating book because so much happens off camera and we get told about it afterward. The focus of the story jumps about wildly and it’s bits and pieces of whatever’s going on in this location with these characters here, followed by snippets dealing with those characters in that place—repeated to the point where it no longer feels like a book, but rather like a collection of scenes loosely organized and covering much too large a scope for the reader to keep track of.

It wasn’t satisfying, it had far too much maundering on about this or that factoid, and it simply wasn’t an actual book. No wonder Weber keeps rewriting books covering this short time period from so many characters’ viewpoints—none are complete, none are very interesting (as we’ve heard too much of the story before), and every book adds another group of minor characters to an already too long series character list, while advancing the plot only a small amount.

Then, too, it’s frustrating, annoying and feels like a ripoff to call some of these novels, “Honor Harrington books,” when she only makes cameo appearances. She shows up more here than in the last two stories, but the central characters for much of the story are Mike Henke and the Five Mandarins who run the Solarian League. In fact an excruciating amount of time is spent on various groups having meetings, especially the Mandarins’ meetings when they’re figuring out how to respond to Manticore. My guess is those meetings take up 35-40% of the book. That’s not the only repetitive aspect of the story either. Weber’s bad guys are cardboard, and if they stopped smiling thinly, looking at other people coldly, saying things nastily or with an edge (along with a long list of other overused descriptors—including Weber’s inability to stop describing his characters in exactly the same terms every damn time. He especially does this with Honor Harrington’s and President Pritchard’s physical appearance, along with Lester Tourville’s and Thomas Theisman’s appearance, gestures and habits.

Then too, how many times do we needs to have the treecats’ conversational signs described in painfully exact detail? In one of these books, Weber spent a whole paragraph describing Nimitz’s precise gestures and exactly which hand and which fingers he used to form each sign. . . and then Weber recycled that paragraph several times both in the same book and in a number of later ones. It doesn’t matter how the treecats make signs—all that matters is what they’re saying! It’s as if Weber was describing exactly how each person’s mouth, lips, teeth and tongue was shaped to form each syllable of the words they spoke. Complete Overkill.

These books have a word count that’s ludicrously inflated because Mr. Weber is obsessed with too many of the nuts and bolts involved in the universe he’s created. He feels compelled to tell us far too much about exactly how x works, the history of y and the origin of z. He also spends far too much time talking about his characters’ looks. He’s described both Eloise Pritchart’s platinum hair and topaz eyes and Honor Harrington’s height and bearing too many times to count, he also tells the reader how many cms tall each character is, along with the colors of their skin, hair and eyes—and then repeats several of those descriptions multiple times per book, using the same words every time. That’s boring and unnecessary.

Some of the information Weber offers does need to be included just to make his universe and characters more real. It adds depth to the story when we learn how each world has shaped the people who settled there, and the first time a character is introduced, it helps to know what she or he looks like. Once is enough, however.

Don’t repeat those descriptions multiple times, or go on for several pages about a new weapon or ammunition. in exactly the same terms every damn time don’t force your reader to spend more time being told about the Mandarins’ meetings, what each person said, and what they all finally decided to do, than you spend showing us what happens as a result of those meetings. Show, don’t tell. Tell quickly gets boring.

Anyway, this is a long review, but it’s because the books in this part of the series have major issues and really need a firm editor to make them work as well as the earlier books did. Each of these stories need a clearer focus, a smaller cast of characters and less overlap with other books, so one book no longer contains spoilers for the next book. Weber can be a good writer, but he seems to have gotten lazy and the editor’s touch is sorely missed. I really hope Weber rediscovers his ability to write sharply plotted stories filled with adrenaline, since that David Weber is sorely missed.
This book was a necessary evil, but it was predictable. Guess what, Mesa keeps manipulating the Solarian league. The Maya sector is still going to be a big player in the future of the League. The League looks like it'll break up as Honor proposed to the Queen, etc. There's one small surprise, the rapidity with which things spin, but this is a book is a complete setup novel. You don't even get to enjoy what happens to the Solarian fleet at Manticore.

I don't agree that the series will be over in 2 books, I think it could be stretched out a lot. We have 4 players now, the Solarians who realized something was wrong, Mesa, the Manticoran Alliance, and the Maya sector. They could spend a lot of time on how things break down and the rise of Mesa before the bad guys get stomped. Just telling the story of all the players will take more than 2 books if he gives us any details...

Update - I did some research online and A) the series will clearly not be over in 2 books and B) we know now why this book was so slow.

Weber wrote 'this' book while Flint was working on the next spin off novel. Weber finished his book and was reviewing the novel by Flint. Based on the timeline and contents of Flint's novel they decided to split A Rising Thunder in half so the content in Flint's novel wouldn't be spoiled. So, the next book by Weber is really the 2nd half of A Rising Thunder, it's already FINISHED (Shadow of Freedom) and will be released after Flint's book. Hopefully this means we'll get 2 Honor books in the next year.